Tuesday, April 7, 2009

I will school Cameon once again....

If it was anybody else I would not spend so much time on this foolishness. But I believe Cameon is sincere in her feelings. Deep down she just wants to do the right thing. So do I.


Cameon, decided to write in response to my response.
What follows, is what I type in notepad as I read her
response:

No, I was not cute, I was quoting your website.
Especially since I said "Let me post the definition
of that word for everyone AGAIN! Straight from your
website
."

"Your" being YOU (your site) CAMEON. DUH!

Do you see how that works cameon? I actually said I am
copying it from your site. And now in your article you are
saying that I tried to give you the vocabulary lesson
when it was you originally that tried to give me that lesson
and I was pointing out that I was already aware of the definition.
So aware, that I was not afraid to copy the definition you gave,
and repost it on my site.

Moving on...

Any slang word is only offensive, if you are offended by it.
However, when you are offended by it being used, by it's definition
then you just sound silly. This of course is what is wrong
with America right now. NO! I am serious. Certain people in America
believe right now that they have the right to not be offended
by someone else. THAT IS WRONG. Freedom of speech means that
I have the right to call you whatever I want to call you.
If you don't like it, then you don't have to listen.
That ladies and gentlemen is freedom of speech.

Take care of it while you have it, because you will no longer have
freedom of speech within my lifetime. Oh, you think I am
lying? Believe it or not, but I am about to post a video
of me getting kicked out of a mall, for standing still and
reading a book. Not a joke. I have the video to prove it.
So go ahead and listen to cameon, but you see where that leads
you. Even when you use the word as it is defined, she says it
is wrong. So according to her logic, doing something she
deems as wrong is wrong. And must be stopped.

Ok , you completely miss the point.
I will quote you AGAIN!

He brings up the point about how if I think of mentally challenged people when I hear the word retarded,
that's my problem. And he's right, although I don't consider
it a problem. I consider it a privilege to fight for
these kids and what they represent.


That's wonderful Cameon, but once again you are talking
about a certain group of *insert whatever name you wish to call them* kids. I am not. I did not mention them, EVER. AT ALL.
You did, and you still do. So once again, this is your problem.


You say retarded as if it's a bad thing, but does it sound like these
kids are so bad off to you?


Again, with the kids, I am talking about Texas and education.
Drop it.


Not because of the people in Texas, but because of the negative
connotation you gave the word. Because of your lack of understanding to the word.


Really Cameon? Yes it is negative, they are slowing education. I believe it is YOUR negative connotation you are giving the word even now that is the point. I have never on my blog associated the word retarded with the "kids" you are speaking of. It is you that is insisting that we associate that word with them. So it would seem to me that you are trying really hard to make the word to be a slang word for a type of person.

Let's look at the definition one more time,
STRAIGHT FROM CAMEONS WEBSITE AGAIN!

To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.

Holy shit sticks! What is wrong with me using the word according to that definition? After all, it is the definition that even you except. You must have, you posted it on your website.


You say retarded as if it's a bad thing, but does it sound like these kids are so bad off to you? Most definitely not. So yes David,
I do get offended when you say that these people in Texas are retarded. Not because of the people in Texas, but because of the negative connotation you gave the word. Because of your lack of understanding to the word


At this point do you really believe that to delay or impede (especially when the subject is education which it was and is) is a bad thing? If you do I now call you retarded. For you are slower than the common person who understands already, that I am using the word correctly and have not used it as a slang for whoever you are talking about.


I could argue about the fact that it seems as if you would only like your idea of evolution taught in schools because that is what you believe. (David is an atheist)


First, evolution has nothing to do with atheism. Now...
Does everyone see how she did that? Right at the end she tacks on that I am an atheist as if it is relevant to our current situation. Which it is not. What does me being an atheist have to do with the education system in America? Or the definition of the word retarded, and it's proper usage? NOTHING! It is a high school debate tactic. Attack the character of the person you are debating, and the crowd (you the reader) will be more inclined not to listen to them.
Nice Cameon, Nice.


Well, David, why not teaching the children all of the things that could have happened and then let them choose on their own?

Oh my holy...
Did you actually read what I wrote? If we teach them "all of the things that could have happened" that would include ; God, Allah, the Flying spaghetti monster, the native American story, Zeus, Krishna, Baal... etc... I could keep going. It would include over 70 thousand different stories. The reason why we don't teach 70 thousand different creation stories in SCIENCE class is because, we have one working SCIENTIFIC theory, that has been proven time and time again, to be correct. In fact, things like the flu shot were created using it...
That one working theory, evolution, is testable. Which means (let me spell it out for you)that the kids can learn evolution ONLY and then grow up (or not, some kids are doing science research) go into a lab, and TEST evolution. If they find a problem with it then they will be the most famous scientist of our time. Especially since no scientist has found a problem with evolution for over a hundred years. Oh a slight few have claimed they did, but then after further review (by the scientific community) they were found to be wrong. This is what is known as peer review. I say I found out this shit by doing this test! Then a lot of other scientist do the test and see if they can see the same thing. If they find problems with it they report them.

So as you can see. Evolution belongs in science class. God belongs in philosophy, or theology, or history.


To close, I do not want to stop anyone's belief system.

I want to teach them science. And then we can go into a lab and do science!

Telling them "God did it!" is not science. We can't go into a lab and test it.

Now what is wrong with someone learning science in science class and religion at church?

That is all I want.

Funny how we went from the word retarded to religion.

2 comments:

  1. sorry you are very wrong. freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. ever hear of hate speech? you're also not allowed to run into a movie theater and scream fire. that's not free speech. Free speech doesn't mean say whatever you feel like and forget the consequences. Anyway, no one is trying to take away your right to say retard or retarded or whatever else you want. All we're saying is if you know the word hurts a group of individuals with special needs, why would you want to use it? It's not about free speech. It's about having a little decency. Something to think about.

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  2. I could post a blog about this response...but Hannah said it best.

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